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2016: Although the dorms are now built,
Stanley still has never publicly spoken to the
Asian American community as to why tennis courts
and trees were more important than the Wang Center.
The view from what was once the peaceful
and beautiful koi pond is now gone. 

 

Save the Wang Asian American Center From the Proposed Toll Drive Dorms!

Click on photos above and below to enlarge.

In a nutshell: Without consultation with the campus community, a monochrome committee composed of SBU and FSA administrators and staff determined that the Toll Drive dorms should be built behind the Wang AAC. They did not consider the effect on Wang and these 6-story dorms, far taller than any part of the main structure of Wang, will destroy the beauty of its garden, make the theatre windows forever useless, and visually cut the iconic pagoda sculpture atop the center in half.

When these problems were brought to President Stanley's attention in April 2012, he had KSQ Architects make drawings to show the effect of the new dorms on Wang. The drawings were so inaccurate they showed 6-story dorms as 3-stories high. Yet President Stanley continues to point to them saying, 'see, the architects have shown the new dorms won't be a problem.'

KSQ lied and Stanley is backing them up for reasons he refuses to explain. One former FSA Board member said that the Administration did not want to deal with the environmentalists who opposed the hotel so they chose a space where trees would not matter. A rumor is that Athletics did not want space under 'their domain', eg by the tennis courts, taken away, or the tennis courts moved. Until Stanley gives logical and factual explanations, it does appear that trees and tennis courts are more important to him than the Asian community.

Not only does Stanley refuse to discuss the drawings, he refuses to discuss why alternative spaces were not chosen. One of those spaces, a mere two minute walk away from the current Wang AAC on another side of the same Student Union parking lot as the proposed dorms, was originally offered to Charles Wang in 1996. If it was good enough for Charles Wang then, why is it so difficult for Stanley to explain why it is not good enough for dorms now?

Below are articles, editorials, letters to Stanley, the KSQ drawings and explanations of their inaccuracies.

 

www.aaezine.org/savewang vs
www.aaezine.org/SaveWang


Our apologies to anyone who only saw the original homepage and not updated ones.
While our first webmaster was a comp sci major, since then it has been a non-techie.
Turns out the web differentiates between upper and lower case urls but savewang and SaveWang didn't. They are now identical.
 

CHARLES B. WANG
ASIAN AMERICAN CENTER

Charles Wang: Donor
Celebrating Asian and
Asian American Cultures

P.H. Tuan: Architect


10/22/2002 - 10/22/2012
WANG CENTER 10TH ANNIVERSARY
 


2002 Grand Opening, Students Hopes Then, Why Students Should Reclaim It Now
- Alumna Sherry Ha, '03, in SB Press

 

 
Original Wang Center Page Hacked, Lots Missing, But Has: Grand Opening Photos & Videos, Charles Wang's Speech, PH Tuan Describing Pagoda & You Can See It Rising
 

 

WANG CENTER SAGA FALL 2013

 
"Jasmine Sucks Now" | Capitalism At
Its Finest | Over 1000 Students Join
Facebook SBU Food Complaints &
Improvements Page | Off-Campus
Housing Battles Are Food Related
by Chenjun Feng, Eric Leung,
May Hao Wang, Ja Young in SB Press

 

 
Wang Center Fall Calendar
Literally Empty

 

WANG CENTER SAGA SPRING 2013

 
Spring Problems Leading Into Fall - Part 1
Wang Center's Tangled Web
Mukhi Forced Out, Future?
by Wilson Jiang, Ja Young

 

 
Spring Problems Leading Into Fall - Part 2
Wang Center's Tangled Web
What is the Future of Asian/American
Programming? What Was Wang's Vision?
What Should the Wang AAC Be Now?
by Wilson Jiang, Ja Young

 

 



OP ED: WANG A/AC RACISM
 
 

 

   Please click here to read the letter Asian and Asian American club Presidents sent to President Stanley expressing their opposition to the Toll Drive dorms and asking to meet with him to discuss it. He ignored them.

   Then-student Melanie Tiongson said the dorms were "like a slap in the face to my culture" and reminiscent of the days when people of color like her were "shafted for the benefit of something allegedly 'greater.'"
 
   On this vast campus where 6-story dorms could have been built in many empty spaces, instead, an all-White building committee, never thinking of the consequences, chose directly behind Wang AAC.

Tennis Courts 1, Asians 0
   Trees 1, Asians 0
White Privilege 1, Asians 0

  

 

WANG A/AC DESTRUCTION NEWS
 


President Stanley's Lie Now Visible




   On this vast campus where 6-story dorms could be built in many empty spaces, just as the Hilton was built in 2013, or built more efficiently where infrastructure existed (high steam pipes), instead, an all-White building committee, never even thinking of the consequences, chose directly behind Wang AAC simply because it was two minutes walking distance closer to the academic mall than by LaValle, where piping existed and could have provided the stadium with an eating facility, similar to UT at Austin dorms.
 
 

   Rather than spend money to have new plans drawn, or even have the common courtesy to speak to those opposed, SBU's imperial President Stanley let construction proceed. Having already applied for the Penn State presidency (they didn't want him) and Cornell (they didn't want him either), he had no long term interest in SBU. His goal was to be gone before the dorms were complete, before proof of the lie about the dorms height vs. the Wang Center was obvious for all to see. But since no other school seems to want him, it seems we're stuck with him.  

   Where once the pagoda tower stood alone against the sky, making SBU the only SUNY campus with such an iconic structure it can be recognized just by that icon, now the bright stadium lights can be seen. From the stadium lot, the tower is no longer visible. From the north entrance, it is now blocked until almost upon it. From the main entrance the dorms are visible. The one concession to reduce the height is that some of the new dorms have been built one story into the earth rather than level. Most buildings have an embankment to keep rain water running away from the building, not towards it. Hopefully those stuck on the first floor below grade won't have to contend with too much flooding.

   Already rated one of the ugliest campuses in the US, with red brick buildings designed by prison architects Kelly & Gruzen and continued by a President and former Facilities VP (who got out while she had the chance - Brown's loss, our gain), who both lacked aesthetic vision (comparable to the new SBU logo), the one building that gave SBU character has been aesthetically destroyed. While from one and a half directions its pagoda tower still stands visibly alone, the beauty and serenity of its koi pond garden and the use of its special theatre windows have been lost - forever. 


Tennis Courts 1, Asians 0
   Trees 1, Asians 0
White Privilege 1, Asians 0

 

 


SAVE WANG NEWS
www.aaezine.org/savewang

 

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SBU Imperial President Is Also Delusional
Stanley Tells Student Media That 6-Story
Dorms Will Have "Almost No Effect"!
We defy Stanley to stand in front of the
shortest of the 6 Wang AAC light towers on
the far right in the drawing below, holding
that KSQ drawing he claims is accurate, and
publicly say it is correct even though it
shows the 3-story light tower as the same
height as the proposed 6-story Toll Drive
dorms! Another KSQ drawing falsely
minimizes the dorms impact on the garden
by making them look 4 stories. So why
should anyone believe any KSQ drawings
that show these 'dwarf' dorms not effecting
the iconic pagoda tower atop Wang? If
Stanley were honest, he would have an
impartial 3rd party architect, one all could
agree on, make accurate drawings.
What is Stanley afraid of? The truth?
Update: We came up with the perfect
architect to provide correct drawings -
the world famous John Belle of Beyer,
Blinder and Belle! He won the nation's
highest honor for an architect, the Presidential Design Award, for the
renovations of Grand Central Station and Ellis Island, and he also designed SBU's
Academic Mall. Everyone respects Belle!

Click on photos above or below to enlarge

 STANLEY STILL LYING,
STILL NOT RESPONDING
Stanley's Scorecard:
Trees 1, Asians 0
 
Is this what "almost no effect" means to
Stanley: Will sitting in the serene Suzhou
style scholar's garden and looking up at
trees and sky be the same as looking at
brick walls towering overhead, listening to
a cacophony of music blaring? Never again
being able to open the theatre curtain to
reveal the Japanese Noh-style effect of the
outside being one with the inside through
the two 8-sided windows? Will driving onto
campus or looking down from the Academic
Mall and seeing the iconic pagoda tower,
now alone against the blue sky, be the same
when its bottom half is backed by brick walls,
at night the dorm lights switching on and off?

 All we ask is that Stanley give logical
reasons why the Asian campus community
does not matter to him. Why he is willing to
the destroy the beauty of the $55 million gift
celebrating Asian heritage when there is lots
of room for dorms elsewhere. (With room for
new parking too!) Why he does not have the
common courtesy to respond to students,
alumni, faculty, staff, and members of the
community who have asked him why. Does
he truly believe the two-minute walk closer
to the Academic Mall between Toll Drive
dorms and LaValle Stadium dorms is worth
screwing up the Wang AAC? Please tell us
Sam. Please justify what you are doing.
Tennis Courts 1, Asians 0
Since the high temp steam pipes needed
to build any large building on campus are
already in place by the tennis courts on the
other side of the same parking lot , why
can't there be stadium dorms there like the
popular ones at UT Austin and the tennis
courts moved. The tennis court space was
originally offered to Charles Wang so if it
was good enough for the Wang AAC then,
why isn't it good enough for dorms now?

   


Drawing above, also by KSQ but prior to
when any objections were raised about the
effect on Wang, more accurately shows the
new dorms towering over the Wang Center.

 

  

PREVIOUS ARTICLES AND OP-EDS


O
Ai Wei Wei Award Winner Jia Yao:
My photograph is about showing the truth
about what is happening at Stony Brook.
It represents the authority figure who is
not listening to the Asian community.
 

 
Stanley Still Lying About Height of Dorms -Still Ignoring Asian Student Leaders 
Asian Club Presidents Give Stanley Letter - Ask to Meet re SBU Lies About New Dorms Stanley insults them - gives them same
KSQ Architects lies they wrote him about!

 

Editorial: Together we can
stop the University from
doing something rash and unforgiveable.
- Wilson Jiang

OpEd: The SBU Presidency
and Its Failures
With the Asian Community

 

2002 Grand Opening, Students Hopes Then, Why Students Should Reclaim It Now
- Alumna Sherry Ha, '03, in SB Press

 

The Day the Asian Frat Boys Cried

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Original Homepage for SaveWang and savewang
Contains more photos, links, SBU/FSA committee members who made the decision, FAQs about alternative spaces, stadium dorms at UT Austin, and lots more good stuff!
 

 

 


SAVE WANG NEWS
www.aaezine.org/savewang

 

 
Stanley Still Lying About Height of Dorms -Still Ignoring Asian Student Leaders 
Asian Club Presidents Give Stanley Letter - Ask to Meet re SBU Lies About New Dorms Stanley insults them - gives them same
KSQ Architects lies they wrote him about!

 

Editorial: Together we can
stop the University from
doing something rash and unforgiveable.
- Wilson Jiang

OpEd: The SBU Presidency
and Its Failures
With the Asian Community

 

2002 Grand Opening, Students Hopes Then, Why Students Should Reclaim It Now
- Alumna Sherry Ha, '03, in SB Press

 

The Day the Asian Frat Boys Cried

  

 

www.aaezine.org/savewang vs
www.aaezine.org/SaveWang


Our apologies to anyone who only saw the original homepage and not updated ones.
While our first webmaster was a comp sci major, since then it has been a non-techie.
Turns out the web differentiates between upper and lower case urls but savewang and SaveWang didn't. They are now identical.

 

CHARLES B. WANG
ASIAN AMERICAN CENTER

Charles Wang: Donor
Celebrating Asian and
Asian American Cultures

P.H. Tuan: Architect


10/22/2002 - 10/22/2012
WANG CENTER 10TH ANNIVERSARY
 


2002 Grand Opening, Students Hopes Then, Why Students Should Reclaim It Now
- Alumna Sherry Ha, '03, in SB Press

 

 
Original Wang Center Page Hacked, Lots Missing, But Has: Grand Opening Photos & Videos, Charles Wang's Speech, PH Tuan Describing Pagoda & You Can See It Rising